"Today" host Savannah Guthrie, 53, modeled what being vulnerable about divorce sounds like during a recent podcast conversation, opening up on her "horrible and sad" split from former husband Mark Orchard. Speaking on Monica Lewinsky's "Reclaiming" podcast in an episode released on July 1, Guthrie said the end of the marriage "broke my heart."

Savannah Guthrie is more than 15 years removed from her divorce, but it seems like the split still weighs on her. In an interview on Tuesday with Monica Lewinsky, the Today correspondent said that the end of her marriage was “horrible and sad and it broke my heart and it took me years to recover.

Guthrie explained that she didn’t want to share too many details about her divorce from Orchard when she was writing her book. And dur